Rain is a K-pop star that needs no introduction. But while he’s undeniably a talented artist, fans have started wondering if he’s a capable handler, too.
Concerns about him as a talent producer have escalated recently. To the point that his performance at the KCON LA 2023 reportedly received a black ocean from the attendees.
But why is there a hate for Rain to begin with? And was he really met with a black ocean during KCON LA 2023?
Rain recieves backlash at the 2023 KCON LA. pic.twitter.com/cSouEoStMP
— Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) August 20, 2023
Rain as an artist and producer
For starters, Rain is an established singer-songwriter, dancer, and actor. With seven studio albums, three extended plays, and more than thirty singles under his belt, there’s no denying how rich his musical career is.
Additionally, he’s also a seasoned actor, having starred both in local Korean projects and international ones.
In fact, he was even included in Time’s 100 most influential people in the world for the years 2006 and 2011. It’s a real testament on how much of a global superstar Rain is.
Unfortunately, his knack as an artist seemingly didn’t translate well to him being a good record producer.
In November 2007, Rain started his own entertainment company J.Tune Entertainment, or formerly known as Rainy Entertainment. Said agency had a subsidiary called J.Tune Camp, which debuted the boy group MBLAQ in October 2009. However, JYP Entertainment merged with J.Tune Entertainment in December 2010 and became the latter’s shareholder.
In September 2015, Rain announced that he’ll be creating his own one-man emergency.
In December 2020, he revealed that he’s planning to debut a new boy group next.
Come March 2021, the seven-piece act Ciipher made their debut. The members were reportedly handpicked by Rain himself, as some of them have previously appeared on survival shows such as Produce X 101, Under Nineteen, and YG Treasure Box.
The backlash against Rain
However, Rain’s competence in handling the group has been put into spotlight when four members of Ciipher announced their departure from the group.
In early August, Dohwan, Tag, Tan, and Won left the group following the expiration of their contracts.
As for the remaining members, Hwi, Hyunbin, and Keita, they will reportedly regroup as a trio in the future. Although final plans about them have yet to be announced.
Unsurprisingly, the news wasn’t received well by the fans. Many were speculating that Ciipher was mistreated and mismanaged when they were active as a group.
🗝️ Timeline of events that happened & is happening to #Ciipher #싸이퍼 and how @raincompany_ NEGLECTED them (with proofs)
DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY#CiipherDeservesBetter #RainCompanyHearUs #레인컴퍼니_클루_좀_들어줘#Rainカンパニーの対応を求めます pic.twitter.com/RzFrKgj8da
— 케톡💬 (@kakeitalk) June 23, 2023
Additionally, several fans related Ciipher’s situation to the previous idol groups that Rain managed such as MBLAQ and Madtown. Despite the popularity and potential of the two latter groups, they weren’t given enough promotion to the public, as compared to their idol contemporaries.
With this, fans were intent to express their displeasure against Rain and planned to boycott his performance at the KCON LA 2023.
Some even pointed out that instead of him performing in the show, Ciipher should’ve been in Rain’s position instead.
WTF? HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO JOIN THE KCON BUT CANT EVEN PROMOTE THE ONLY GROUP HE HANDLES? CIIPHER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON YOUR POSITION https://t.co/Jvy1COKoy4
— 똥강아지 키얀 ᡣ𐭩ྀིྀི (@for_mywon) June 12, 2023
He should be making sure Ciipher attended these events instead, especially with Keita's popularity in Boys Planet, but that is a personal opinion… https://t.co/SkMCvmgt0h
— Fernanda Siepierski (@nandasiepi) June 12, 2023
How KCON LA attendees reacted to Rain’s set
Even before Rain’s performance, there were several fans who were organizing a black ocean during this set.
For those unfamiliar, a black ocean is wherein the attendees turn off their lightsticks and stop cheering for the performer as a form of protest.
#ATINY #HUNNIES #MINI #KEPL1AN #road𝓨 #ZEROSE please help to give #RAIN a black ocean on #KCONLA2023 this is the least the kpop stans can do after what #RAIN did to #CIIPHER he promised them success and asked them to believe in him but then he ruined all of their dreams. pic.twitter.com/4NnCchF3Nr
— 𝐚𝐲𝐚樂 ✰ (@knowoongyun) August 15, 2023
“I don’t care what your opinion is on a black ocean nor Rain’s legacy in K-pop. This man ruined and crushed the dreams [of] seven talented boys. He literally openly said he regretted funding their dreams! He deserves no cheers and no lightstick ocean regardless of his status in K-pop,” one fan wrote.
i dont care what your opinion is on a black ocean nor rain’s legacy in kpop. this man ruined and crushed the dreams 7 talented boys. he literally openly said he regretted funding their dreams! he deserves no cheers and no lightstick ocean regardless of his status in kpop. https://t.co/XPuLlQVVhR
— mae 🧸 jinsik noticed me (@maetansu) August 15, 2023
https://twitter.com/winxyeojin/status/1690160162756014080
According to the attendees of KCON LA, Rain was reportedly met with a lukewarm response during his performance.
i'm crying it was so quiet for rain man pic.twitter.com/lqYCVOfiSY
— katie 🍉 (@kookaesque) August 20, 2023
FUCK RAIN #KCON2023LA #KCON pic.twitter.com/Xx0CXESUfj
— marisa is going to japan ✰ (@nanasbannanas) August 20, 2023
https://twitter.com/mistflm/status/1693215126688874593
Clips of Rain reportedly being booed and flipped by attendees also circulated on social media. An attendee was also seen holding a “We wanted Ciipher” sign during Rain’s performance.
https://twitter.com/mistflm/status/1693215126688874593
FUCK RAIN #KCON2023LA #KCON pic.twitter.com/Xx0CXESUfj
— marisa is going to japan ✰ (@nanasbannanas) August 20, 2023
TO THE PERSON BEHIND ME AT KCON WITH THE “WE WANTED CIIPHER” SIGN DURING RAIN’S PERFORMANCE I LOVE U pic.twitter.com/IjaTKz1Vse
— sav saw the boyz !! 💙 (@ihrtcob) August 20, 2023
However, several attendees also claimed that it wasn’t to the point that it can be called a black ocean. Although many did agree that compared to the stages of other artists, Rain’s KCON LA performance wasn’t as loud.
“It felt more like most people simply didn’t know Rain, rather than mass action,” one wrote.
Not a complete black ocean but
Rain VS other artistes pic.twitter.com/FBdTGIo4uU
— 밀키문 🍼 (@milkymoonss) August 20, 2023
A bunch of people have asked me if there was truly a black ocean at KCON. I kinda knew this would come up so I took panos just as Rain’s set was beginning and during the next set. Tbh it felt more like most people simply didn’t know Rain, rather than mass action pic.twitter.com/4Vcu2SB33d
— Tamar Herman is not here anymore (@TamarWrites) August 21, 2023
As of writing, Rain has yet to acknowledge the supposed protest.
Featured image: Rain updates fans with new photo of him. Credit: Twitter/Rain Company